Aug 24, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03
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#101
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NYC
Guild: Orphans of Kukai [OOK]
Profession: W/
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I think this is the first time that a new addition to the game (not including nerfs) has been so flatly disapproved of by the players. I'm shocked and surprised at everything that's going down here.
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Aug 24, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08
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#102
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Flobbitown
Guild: Siege Turtles
Profession: Mo/
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Recommendations
The rearrange buttons on the monuments are completely unacceptable. We should have more choice in how our monuments are displayed. Here are my recommended changes for the Monuments...- Devotion: Either make minipets customized to the account, or all the pet to be "stored" frozen in the monument.
- Fellowship: Allow which hero/pet to be displayed as well as which armor set will be displayed on the hero.
- Honor: Clean it up and adjust PvP related listings.
- Resilience: Either use the primary class or allow which class is to be displayed for each set of ascended armor.
- Valor: Allow more than just EOTN weapons! I should be able to display my Tormented Staff!!!
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Aug 24, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21
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#103
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Guild: Red Lightning Brigade
Profession: E/Mo
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HoM - What the f...??!
Ok I really like the idea of the hall of monuments but from what I've been reading and experiencing myself, Anet really made some mistakes this time.
Mistake number 1: pvp titles only. (and to make things worse, they are set to high)
Mistake number 2: Customise minipets to character when u add them to the minipet shrine. What if someone wants to display them on another char? Ok so you guys wanna prevent that people 'duplicate' their minipets shrines to other characters, but I'm sure there is a different, BETTER way.
Mistake number 3: Heroes can only be displayed with upgraded armor. What if people like the original armor?
Mistake number 4:
Only high end gwen weapons that can be added. So all those beautifull golden weapons, perfected for what? to be forgotten when we start playing guild wars 2?
Mistake number 5: They didn't include a free beer coupon with the GW:EN Prerelease bonus pack.
All very serious mistakes Anet, better start thinking what to do, Most players are really happy with your work, and this might screw things up for you guys.. :/
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Aug 24, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24
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#104
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delaware
Guild: Eternal Knights of Twilight [Nite]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silvershock
Mistake number 5: The Resilience Monument is a giant piece of trash
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Fixed number 5 for you.
Also, there are a thousand different threads on this already. Was a new one really necessary?
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Aug 24, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24
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#105
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2006
Guild: The Overacheivers [Club]
Profession: Mo/
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1-4 pissed me off but when i read 5 i became furious
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Aug 24, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25
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#106
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: ALOA
Profession: E/Me
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I think it's somewhat fair that only GWEN weapons can be added. For over a year and a half, people bought and sold weapons with no idea that they could one day be stored in a HoM. I'm sure people would be kicking themselves if they sold a high end weapon, because they would have kept it had they known about this.
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Aug 24, 2007, 10:59 PM // 22:59
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#107
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Clan of Elders
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
I think "ALL" of the display are bogus. None of them benefit us a single bit at this moment, and what would tell what can it do for us in the future? Don't expect customer to see the future.
Probably will just ignore HoM until GW2 or something as it currently stand.
(when I display armor, it doesn't display "MY" armor... it just display some random armor crafted from that area)
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yup and its only for ascended armor...i happen to like the 1k armor much better than the 15k...so gues thats another spot in my hall that will be empty
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Aug 24, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01
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#108
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Clan of Elders
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baggy
The rearrange buttons on the monuments are completely unacceptable. We should have more choice in how our monuments are displayed. Here are my recommended changes for the Monuments... - Devotion: Either make minipets customized to the account, or all the pet to be "stored" frozen in the monument.
- Fellowship: Allow which hero/pet to be displayed as well as which armor set will be displayed on the hero.
- Honor: Clean it up and adjust PvP related listings.
- Resilience: Either use the primary class or allow which class is to be displayed for each set of ascended armor.
- Valor: Allow more than just EOTN weapons! I should be able to display my Tormented Staff!!!
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we should be able to display our endgame weapons and all our greens customized to our toons for that matter.
Geeze...here i thought savign all my stuff from pve was gonna let me have a nice HoM..but all i got is a generic armor set now...what a shame
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Aug 24, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21
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#109
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return
Profession: R/P
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They also need to get rid of the names on the mini's as they are displayed. This just makes that part of the HOM look aweful. It would be a neat display but all you see is wording.
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Aug 24, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25
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#110
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)
Profession: R/
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Just because you get upgraded hero armor doesn't mean your heroes have to use it. You can switch them to any unlocked armor. I think this is Anet's way of saying 'if you really love your heroes, you'll get them some new duds'. A little odd but I can live with it.
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Aug 24, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33
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#111
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: det.
Guild: idk
Profession: Mo/E
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wow pvp titles only, guess i got r5 wisdom title for nothing. i also feel for those who spent alot of time getting sweet tooth and drunkard title.
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Aug 25, 2007, 12:17 AM // 00:17
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#112
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Oh Noes! The 'burbs!
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Considering the requirement of the HOM, I feel a little disappointed. Just because I don't care to grind for upgraded hero armor I can't put my heros in the monument? I think that's kinda lame.
If I customize my mini pet, does that mean I can no longer sell it?
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Aug 25, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49
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#113
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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This poster expressed my feelings, no need to repeat what he just did, I'd write something similar.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...2&postcount=68
Looking at
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=102
I can just say QFT.
- on Minis : On another thread I saw a suggestion on making minipets stored as festival hats.
Storing a minipet removes it from the character inventory, and allows to replicate for any character in the account that minipet for a small amount of money. The replicated minipet is customized for the character (just like the festival hat system)... It is a good idea, will make more storage available to players and will make minis account based.
Inherited minis would still be account linked (can't be sold), but they could be created by any character of that given account in GW2.
- on greens : I have saved myself some green weapons... but they are not accepted in HoM. It is a big work for the developers... they cannot create a unique item/skin/whatever that will be inherited by GW2 characters for EVERY green in the game (too many of them, would be a waste of time).
- PVE titles : aren't they worth anything ? Come on...
Let's say my character is "George Georginson" in GW1 who has achieved some titles and stuff.
George puts his stuff into the HoM. Then GW2 comes out and the player decides to play it and to create a new character.
He calls the new character in GW2 "Pete Georginson" and links George's stuff (from GW1) to this new one. So the reward for pve based stuff is inherited by Pete. If the player wants to give George's inheritance to another pc, he must delete Pete and name a new successor.
This system could go well for rewards coming from PVE titles, which are character based, goes well for armor and weapons too... but minis ?
BTW - I'm voicing here my only dissatisfaction (though a big one) with this preview.
If HoM the way it is made it this far, to the "sneak peek weekend", it means that the devs have planned to make it that way.
I don't like at all the current HoM. Everything else about GW:EN is just awesome. Gonna buy it.
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Aug 25, 2007, 01:00 AM // 01:00
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#114
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Edmonton, Canada
Guild: [Liar]
Profession: Mo/
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I'm seriously annoyed that I can only display 11 minis at once. I have 25 and want to see them all up there... Also, the minis names being like they are ruins the monument. The name should only be viasble when hovering over it.
Armor monument is also a bit disappointing, doesn't show my armor, just generic sets from the outpost from which it was purchased. Lame...
2 thumbs down....
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Aug 25, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14
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#115
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood
Profession: E/
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Hm, I placed all my minipets in Hall of Monuments and now my other chars cannot activate them anymore. This disappoints me a little since I expected that adding them would only disallow me from trading them with other players.
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Aug 25, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05
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#116
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Usa
Guild: TKC
Profession: N/
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disappointment?
This is a "PREVEIW" weekend,a taste of what is to come.I would put huge money on the devs actually knowing the "I'm so disapointed thread" was comming, so they didn't apply all the effects in the hall on purpose or what would ya look forward too?
I am sure the devs know what they are doing, look at all the rabble the HoM has caused already.I say play and enjoy it. Logic dictates that the devs are not going to put up a max pvp title only monument,there will be more added.
Just think how you would have reacted when you got to the HoM and saw all your titles there,you'd have said,"sweet, but now what????? Oh YA, GIMME SOMTHIG MORE!!!!!"
Unless the dev team have all recently had labotomies...................
RELAX
I do feel a bit of sympathy for the people that customized a bunch of mini pets to the HoM.I think that they should have a gold border around any window veiwing the icon to signify that they were "shown" to the HoM and that they can't be traded,but still used by any charecter on the acount.
Armor and weapons this is gonna upset people with tormented/high end weapons if the system stays the way it is.I personally think you should be able to show/store any customized weapon/armor from any campaign to the HoM.THAT WOULD MEAN CUSTOMIZING OFFHANDS AND SHEILDS......(but this may be a graphical issue with GW2)
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Now onto the POSITIVE:
Totally awsome story from what I have seen so far......best yet
Graphics..........OMG......KILLER
NPC'S THAT ACTUALLY TALK
Heros with a story that actually isnt dumb...... (soz I burned out on NF 2 months ago and havent really been back)
Multiclass monsters.....we can, why not them?
Cool weapons so far(I'm sure it only gets better)
I truly hope they can implement some of this game wide and not just leave it for EN.I cant wait to buy/play GW:EN
TY A-Net for wetting my palate.
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Aug 25, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32
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#117
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Advent To Glory[xAGx]
Profession: W/
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the thing i hate about the HoM is resilance and valor, you should be able to choose which profession, gender, and armor gets put in there. im a monk and none of the ascended armors i have r displayed as a monk let alone the ascened armor i have (eg granite citedal judgement) you should be able to choose everythin and customize it for your character. and for valor why should it be only weapons in EoTN, i have plenty of high end items from other campaigns i would loike to see up there. and for those with tormented weapons that cant display them i feel bad for ya lol. changes need to be made to every single monument
HoM=fail until they make updates which will better suit everyone
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Aug 25, 2007, 02:49 AM // 02:49
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#118
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Ascalonian Squire
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Does this mean I rerolled 5 times and spend 2 months getting legendary survivor for nothing?
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Aug 25, 2007, 02:53 AM // 02:53
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#119
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Does this mean I rerolled 5 times and spend 2 months getting legendary survivor for nothing?
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With the current system thats a big 10-4.
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Aug 25, 2007, 03:04 AM // 03:04
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#120
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Lazy job anet... I hope this is like the Sunspear grind at nightfall and you don't make us grind to get max titles/hero upgrades/everything in the hall of monuments. Also fix the garphics error for the dells and imbed chipsets please, me friends went insane trying to figure out why they were getting errors with their graphics cards and downloading updates from Intel is a pain.
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